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    Unealistic Expectations

    UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS

    Hello beginners..., this is very important for you in starting your first year in forex business. Yes, this is about expectations, I'm sure many of you (beginners) who have high expectations in starting this business, of course, forex trading promises big profits in a short time. But, you have to think many times about this. Maybe you see a lot of traders who show off big profits in a short time. Wait a minute....., don't be easy to believe with what you see, because such properties are typical of the newbies. Will a professional trader be proud and show off their big profits? Certainly not. Just try to imagine, you will be happy and proud when you get first profit and first withdrawal in forex business. Yes, of course, but when you've often get a profit and often withdrawal from forex trading, then you feel it is commonplace, not too special. That's why someone who is proud and show off his big profits means that he is a newbies , because pro traders will not do that.

    So as a beginner, you don't have too much expectations, just do it casually, learn with ease, make a lot of experience. That's what you should do. Success is a matter of time. You have to be patient in going through this long process in this business. Don't expect instant success. That is an overly high expectation.

    Let we see this table.



    In the image above, you can change your $ 10 to $ 725,706 in just 20 trades. I think many beginners have this kind of trading plan, or at least you've found traders who have this kind of plan. Okay it does not matter, it is your right. But how many times have you failed to do so? Then, if you still do it again and again, and failed again and again. So please, if you can't laugh at yourself, call me... I'll laugh at you. Sometimes we creates our heartbreaks through high expectations. Okay, maybe you will only lost $10 in each round. Then how many rounds will you do? "Waste your money and you are only out of money, but waste your time and you've lost a part of your life".

    When I start a forex business with excessive expectations and misinterpret success. I created a compound table in Excel, which I consider or say as "Money Management". Busy counting profit (never thought about loss). In accordance with the table, I count for profit of 1% per day and never loss (win 100%). Opening 0.1 lots of $ 500 balances, unknowingly risk lurking. Getting $ 6 only / day x 20 days is $ 120 profit. Amazing, can make a profit almost 25% per month. There is no loss scenario in my trading plan, and never thought about loss because trading is DEFINITELY profit. $ 500 in capital is rolled up and the result is within 1 year become $ 5000. What a wonderful world it is and soar this hope.

    Reality? You already know the answer.

    Sorry, remove all compound tables like that. Beautiful plans and profit calculations are not unimportant. But first prioritize the calculation if the loss or if it turns out not as expected. Why? Because online Forex trading is a margin-based derivative product (leverage) like a double-edged sword. On the one hand has more value because the required capital funds are much smaller than the real sector business or physical trading. On the other hand has a weakness can make our funds run out to 0 in a relatively short time. Endless capital or investment value will not happen in physical Forex trading (for example).

    Thus, it should first consider how the strategy for the exhaustion of funds will never happen. Prioritize how to minimize the possibility of capital to 0, then think of profit. Do not turn around. That is the essence of Money Management around Forex trading.

    This kind of trading plan table will make the beginner thinking about 2 things as his mindset :

    1. Mindset : "Too much expectation on forex trading"

    If you think that forex trading is the only way to achieve success in life, usually this will be a thorn in the hay that will lead to failure in trading. It becomes wrong if a trader really hopes to get financial success from the results of trading. Why do I think so? Because I think, when we embedding this mindset. then we tend to be forced to get profit on every transactions.

    2. Mindset '' I must get profit everyday ''

    Such mindset always arise in beginner trader. Beginner traders usually always expect maximum trading results from every position he has put on the market regardless of the fact that it is very difficult to expect a definite result of every trading we do. That's because in trading, even if you have the most powerful trading system, will not be sure to generate 100% profit. Sometimes you will occasionally get a loss and occasionally get a profit.

    You will only know the end result of your trading after you have traded in certain period of time. You should always focus on your trading system and you can evaluate it after several periods.

    Too high expectation on forex trading will lead you doing something fatal in your life, for example you quit your main job. You don't have to get out of a job or business that you are working on and switch total to forex trading with big profit expectations every month. The way it is less wise.

    Another things you do as the effect of excessive expectation is doing over-trade and apply over-leverage to gain big profits in a short period of time, without applying appropriate and planned risk management. "Simple things become complicated when you expect too much".

    Tips for you, try to pay attention to the following points:

    - Use your free funds to trade.

    Free funds mean that funds are not for the cost of daily living and you are willing if the fund is forfeited. What if no free funds? Yes, try trading on demo account first until have funds that really free. Never try trading by using funds that cause you emotional in trading. You should always assume that any amount of funds in your trading account will be shrinking, even sold out altogether.

    - Make sure that you can sleep soundly every day.

    Still related to free funds, but this one is more at risk that we dare to bear in every trading position. If you can't sleep well because of the amount of loss you may have, then you need to review your risk management and your suitable trading plan, according to the amount of funds in your trading account. Apply a realistic risk reward ratio, don't over-leverage and over-trade.

    - Know that every trading position is independent.

    Every trading position that we opened is independent of the previous position. Many traders when opening new positions are still affected by the nuances of previous trading positions. Euphoria or excessive confidence is often experienced if it has gained a large profit or profit in a row, as well as feelings of "revenge" often appear after considerable loss. This is carried in the way open or closing positions that repeat the same way when the profit in the previous position, or opposite to how open or closing in the previous position. This is wrong.

    If we know in fact that every new position we open is a new 'zero point', then we will not be overly emotional and think objectively. Open New positions should use logical reasoning, not merely avenge the previous defeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulthred View Post
    Expectations are good but having unrealistic expectations in this market is a sure way to easily fail in forex. Some traders have always expect that they could easily make it with trading and must have come up with a huge amount of money in their mind to make within a little time of trading. If you understand this trade you will realize that expectations like this can be very bad because it will push us to take high risk that could lead to high loss.
    It is nice to be expectant, but in the case that traders are having too much expectations, it might no more be realistic. It is better that traders are working with the right trading system and have the realistic plans with it, that is what is going to make the trader to be earning their money, but the traders which will dream too much will have their mindset clouded, this will only make the trader smell success, the trader will not attain it.

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    Unrealistic expectations are bad always. New traders dream that they know market and they will big money here. Unfortunately they have big losses and mainly due to bad money management and big size lots. Traders should trade with cold mind and be realistic, never calculate how much money it is possible to earn in forex if they are right in direction and use big lots.

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    Seriously if we must tell the truth we all expect to become rich here and make huge money when we are very new here. We believed that we could become sudden rich or have found the secret to wealth. But now we have seen that like every other business, forex is not easy too. Some expectations have been mellowed down because we now understand how this business works and how hard this business can cause loss. It's not an easy business and the expectations we have will be determined by our experience.

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    some time we expect more then our limits.there is always limit in trading we should understand whenever we try to cross limits and try to earn big in short period we loses. we must should avoid this in trading and should use some sl in trading to secure from crossing that limit. i recommend to use demo account for understanding of market because if we understand how it works we can use it for earning

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    Quote Originally Posted by altafch View Post
    some time we expect more then our limits.there is always limit in trading we should understand whenever we try to cross limits and try to earn big in short period we loses. we must should avoid this in trading and should use some sl in trading to secure from crossing that limit. i recommend to use demo account for understanding of market because if we understand how it works we can use it for earning
    Going beyond our capabilities in this business is dangerous to do but challenging as well. Only those who dare to take the risk of learning or trying something new will find better experience and knowledge about forex trading. However, things has always their own limit and never go beyond our expectation too. This business teaches us to stay logical, never expect something to get done easily with less efforts.

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    The right expectations is necessary and this is what we should however make good plans about so we can really have the potential to trade better and make profits. Expectations are necessary and with the best trading there is more we can achieve in forex. It's not been easy when we expect so much to happen but we should be serious to trade rightly and build a profitable trade that we can always depend upon.

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    good expectations can be build on the right manner in analysing the market and also we can be very effective to follow the market and thus there can find different indicators and strategies which can help us to find the right manner to enter the market and the divide the market with different levels to locate the stop loss and the take profit orders .

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    The expectation been kept in the business has to be realistic, the trader should know that the expectations they make will determine if they get to become profitable or not. Because obviously, forex trading is like every other business that should be done with patient, but when the expectation is on the high, then the trader cant be patient enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhorse View Post
    The expectation been kept in the business has to be realistic, the trader should know that the expectations they make will determine if they get to become profitable or not. Because obviously, forex trading is like every other business that should be done with patient, but when the expectation is on the high, then the trader cant be patient enough.
    but we people do expect more then reality, people uses some smaller capital in trading and try to earn very big from small capital so its wrong, i believe if we have good capital it can secure us it can make us able to earn good, with smaller capital we can not earn good also, in margin also can lose in short period, so make sure you work on good capital but uses some smaller lots and manage risk as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhorse View Post
    The expectation been kept in the business has to be realistic, the trader should know that the expectations they make will determine if they get to become profitable or not. Because obviously, forex trading is like every other business that should be done with patient, but when the expectation is on the high, then the trader cant be patient enough.
    Balance things with our deposit, skills, experience, and market current volatility. Once everything is moving according to our plan, calculate how much profits we want to make and never get more than our plan. If you think that increasing the target is a great idea, then place a protective stop loss in your running trades with profit to prevent sudden reversal.

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